Episode 2
Perfectionism in Relationships—The Pressure to "Get It Right" & Why It Backfires - Descript
Hosted by Dr. Rachel Orleck, Couples Therapist & Coach
Do you find yourself overthinking every text before you send it? Or rehearsing exactly what to say so your partner doesn’t get upset—or so the conversation stays “calm”? That’s not just communication anxiety. That’s relationship perfectionism.
In this episode of Coupled With…, we’re talking about:
- Why perfectionism shows up in your relationship (especially if you’re thoughtful, responsible, or highly self-aware)
- How trying to “get it right” can actually make your partner feel more disconnected—not more supported
- The emotional cost of over-functioning in love
- A mindset shift to help you move from performance to presence
If you're tired of trying to say everything the right way, and you just want to feel more yourself in your relationship again—this episode will show you where to begin.
More Resources and Ways to Connect:
💛 Free guide: How to Start a Hard Conversation
📌 Relationship Check-Up: personalized insights to help you understand where you and your partner are getting stuck
📲 Let’s connect on Instagram: @drrachelorleck
Transcript
You are listening to coupled with
the podcast that helps you take the
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:guesswork out of feeling seen, heard,
and valued in your relationship.
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:If you've ever felt stuck in the same
arguments, struggled to stay connected,
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:or wondered how to better communicate with
your partner, you're in the right place.
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:I am Dr.
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:Rachel Orick, a couples therapist
and coach, and together we're
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:going to make relationships.
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:Make sense?
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:Let's dive in.
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:Have you ever felt like you have
to handle every conversation
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:in your relationship perfectly?
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:Like one wrong move, one wrong
word could ruin everything?
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:If so, you might be dealing with
perfectionism in your relationship.
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:Perfectionists tend to believe that if
they just communicate the right way, at
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:the right time, with the right words,
they can control how their partner reacts.
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:But here's the thing, relationships
don't work like a perfectly coded
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:program and the pressure to get
it right often backfires, leaving
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:you feeling more frustrated,
unseen and emotionally drained.
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:So here's what we're covering today,
why perfectionism shows up in the
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:relationships and where it comes from, how
the need to get it right actually pushes
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:your partner away, and a mindset shift.
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:to let go of control and
build true connection instead.
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:Okay, so I want to start this conversation
by saying, I am a perfectionist.
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:I struggle with this concept all the time.
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:In fact, I have been working on
launching this podcast for nearly a year.
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:And because I couldn't get it perfect, I
couldn't put it out there into the world.
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:It's been so vulnerable.
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:And I've really had to work on this part
of myself in a lot of areas of my life,
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:even just to get this podcast launched.
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:So let's talk a little bit about
how perfectionism actually seeks to
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:help us stay safe in a relationship.
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:Perfectionism can be an adaptive
way that we try to prevent
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:disconnection in our relationship.
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:So when we fear being rejected
or abandoned by our partner
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:in some way, it may drive us.
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:To perfectionism and people pleasing
or trying to control the situation
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:or outcome as a way to prevent
that rupture in our relationship.
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:It may come with this belief of if
I am not perfect, if I don't say it
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:perfectly, if I don't do something
perfectly, then my partner will leave me.
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:They won't accept me.
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:Or it might be that I have to be perfect
and self-sufficient in order to avoid
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:being dependent on somebody else,
because if I'm too dependent on somebody
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:else, I will inevitably get hurt.
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:And let me get something straight.
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:Perfectionism is not all bad.
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:Positive perfectionism is actually a
really healthy drive for excellence.
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:It's setting high standards and really
striving to improve and grow and learn.
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:When there are mistakes that's seen as
a learning experience, you're able to
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:take something from that and work towards
achieving more excellence in the future.
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:But there's also negative
perfectionisms, which is an excessive
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:worry about making mistakes.
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:The drive for this kind of perfectionism
is often the fear of failure or
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:being criticized or making mistakes,
and those mistakes are seen as a
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:really negative thing, as opposed to
something that you can learn from.
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:So they take it.
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:As it'll make them look bad or they
tend to dwell on their shortcomings and
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:they have a lot of anxiety and distress
and self-criticism when it comes to
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:experiencing mistakes or failures.
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:And if you're a failure, and
if you think about how that
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:might come up in a relationship,
that can be really detrimental.
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:Often my clients find that perfectionism,
which works really well for them, often
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:in their professional settings where
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:being detailed oriented
is really important.
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:And then they come into their relationship
and they try to use those same skills,
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:but it's not as helpful because in a
relationship that becomes about control.
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:And when two people are in a
relationship and one person is trying
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:to control it, or even worse, two
people are trying to control it.
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:Then inevitably there's a struggle.
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:And this is why perfectionists really
struggle in their relationships.
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:I can just think about times in my own
relationship when I spent hours drafting
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:a text to my partner, and maybe it was
after a disagreement or when I wanted to
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:connect about something and I would just
agonize over tone and punctuation and
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:the exact right way to word my feelings,
and my partner would respond with.
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:Okay.
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:Or a thumbs up or a quick sounds good.
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:Something like that.
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:And I would just feel so
devastated and disappointed.
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:And that's a moment that just
highlights the mismatch and emotional
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:labor where perfectionism really
created distance instead of clarity.
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:So in this example, and in many other
ways, perfectionism in relationships
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:comes out as overanalyzing.
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:Everything waiting to have a conversation
until you figure it out, the exact
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:right way to say it so that your partner
doesn't feel hurt or feel disconnected
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:from you or get angry with you.
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:You end up taking a lot of responsibility
for the emotions of your partner and.
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:You likely will even shut down or avoid
conflict as a way of avoiding, quote,
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:messing up and not getting it right.
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:Perfectionists who often deal with
negative perfectionism and shut
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:down or pull away from relationships
or try to control what's happening
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:in their relationship so that
they can feel comfortable.
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:Often have a lot of self-critique.
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:There's an inner critic in them that.
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:Tells them they're gonna mess it up.
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:Tells them that they're not enough,
they're not good enough for their partner.
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:They won't be enough for their
partner, but they may also
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:be critical of their partner.
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:Their partner isn't doing enough for them.
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:Are you starting to see elements of
yourself and what I'm describing, or maybe
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:you see parts of your partner in this?
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:Can you imagine how devastating this
would be for your relationship if this
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:was part of it, but also how stressful
this would be for you to be dealing with
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:these kind of thoughts day in and day out,
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:worrying that if you got it even
a little bit wrong, the entire
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:relationship could crumble.
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:As with anything in this attachment
world, this all stems from
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:something that happened way before
you're in this relationship.
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:So often our childhood experiences lead
us to wanting to be more perfectionistic.
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:It feels nice when our parents praise
us, tell us that we're good at something
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:and we feel loved and seen and valuable.
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:That may be something that our parents did
where they only praised us for being good,
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:or they only praised us for achievements.
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:Or it could be that that's just the time
that you felt the most valued and loved.
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:There may be cultural expectations that.
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:Relationships only work
if you don't fight.
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:So you have to say things perfectly
to avoid those fights when in fact
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:conflict is a really normal and
necessary part of all relationships.
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:No matter how much couples therapy you
might go to, you're never gonna be able
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:to avoid all conflict, and honestly,
you wouldn't want to because those are.
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:Pieces of our life where we can
grow together and understand each
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:other more deeply, and in fact
create a lot more connection.
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:You know, professionally, I see this
with a lot of clients who are doctors or
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:engineers, or maybe even other therapists.
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:Basically people who excel in
systems of precision and order, but
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:relationships just aren't like that.
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:They're messy and emotional and inherently
imperfect, and when we try to shove
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:them into a box, they lose something.
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:They lose that closeness, and we start
either taking meaning from it that
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:we aren't enough or we're sending
that meaning to our partner that this
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:relationship or they aren't enough for us.
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:So here's the irony.
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:The harder you try to make things perfect,
the more disconnect you actually create.
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:This is how it backfires.
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:Your partner feels like they can't
relax because when one person is always
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:striving for things to be perfect, the
relationship just ends up feeling tense.
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:You might not say it aloud.
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:But they can really feel the pressure.
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:They're noticing the micro
expressions that cross your face,
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:the little behaviors that you have.
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:They're looking for the signals
and cues that tell them that
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:it's not emotionally safe.
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:From the outside, it really might
feel like you're walking on eggshells
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:around someone who's emotionally
guarded but outwardly composed.
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:It really creates a disconnect.
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:You end up missing real
emotional connection.
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:You're so focused on saying
things right, that you actually
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:start to lose authenticity.
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:It's like showing up in a relationship
with a script instead of your real self.
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:You just don't get to
connect with the real person.
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:You become emotionally exhausted.
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:It really is so tiring, overthinking
every move, and it leads to burnout
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:and resentment in the relationship.
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:You may even start thinking
like, why am I trying so hard?
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:It never seems to work anyway.
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:You know, I hear from clients all the time
that they're rehearsing and practicing
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:their speeches to their partners
well before they ever get to them.
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:And they start to say
they're rehearsed speech.
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:They look at their partner and they
can see that they don't connect.
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:And that's just so deflating
and disappointing because
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:they're trying so hard.
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:They care so much about this relationship
and they care so much about their partner
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:that they're trying so hard to make it
work and find the exact right words to say
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:so that they can unlock that key to their
partner's heart and feel more connected.
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:But the problem is they're not connecting
because they're performing and aren't
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:speaking from the heart at that point.
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:They're so nervous about getting it wrong,
that they're robotic, and inevitably
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:that makes it feel less personal.
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:So this is where the big
shift needs to happen.
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:We have to shift from performing to
being present instead of thinking,
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:how do I say this perfectly?
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:Ask yourself, what am I actually feeling?
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:How can I convey this
vulnerability to my partner?
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:Because what they wanna see is inside
you, the real feelings that are coming
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:up, the real fears, the real hurts,
even if it's hard for them to hear.
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:They wanna be connected to
you, not this image of you that
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:you're quote supposed to be.
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:So you can practice saying something
messy like, this is really hard for me
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:to talk about and I'm worried I'm going
to say it wrong, but I wanna try anyway.
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:I wanna connect with you and.
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:Just see how it goes.
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:Allow yourself to make mistakes.
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:Allow yourself to say to your partner,
oh, that wasn't quite what I meant.
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:Let me try again.
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:Be prepared to embrace repair
over perfection, because
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:really conflict is inevitable.
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:Your goal isn't to avoid making mistakes,
but to repair from them when they happen.
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:When you can acknowledge and own a
mistake that you've made, then you're
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:much better able to go to your partner
and talk about the things that are hurting
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:you or, or scaring you, or being able to
hear what's going on with your partner.
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:So for example, instead of beating
yourself up for reacting emotionally,
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:come back and say, you know.
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:I got frustrated earlier.
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:What I really wanted to say in that
moment was, and then try again.
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:Let them know what you wanna say.
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:Now that you're feeling more in
touch with those emotions, now that
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:you're feeling a little bit calmer.
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:Real intimacy is built on the moments
where we reconnect after disconnection,
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:not just from a flawless delivery.
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:And you wanna focus on being connected
to your partner, not controlling them.
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:You can't control how your
partner responds, but you
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:can control how you show up.
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:And when I say that, I don't mean what
you say as part of this perfect script,
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:what you can control is showing up.
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:From the heart with your true feelings
and vulnerabilities, telling them
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:that they are important to you, that
you don't wanna be alone in this, and
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:you don't want them to feel alone.
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:You can't control if they feel
hurt or sad or scared, but what
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:you can focus on is being present
with them, engaged with them.
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:And genuine.
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:And ultimately what that is going
to convey is that they're not alone
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:in what they're feeling, that you're
right there next to them and that you
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:care about what they're going through.
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:Ultimately, we feel connected and
trusting of our partner when we believe
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:that our feelings matter to them.
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:So if you can convey that what's coming
up for your partner, even if it hurts
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:you, even if you feel frustrated, even if
it triggers you to take a step back, if
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:you can convey to the your partner that
through all of that they are still really
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:important to you and you wanna work on
this and you wanna be more connected to
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:them, that is the most important thing.
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:Not the specific words that come out.
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:Because trying to make every conversation
perfect is like trying to thread a
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:needle while walking on a tightrope.
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:It's tense, exhausting,
and probably not the point.
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:So let's practice letting
go of the outcome.
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:Ask yourself, what do I want
them to feel in this moment?
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:That mindset can lead to more
vulnerability instead of strategy,
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:because if what you want them to feel
is connected to you and open to you
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:and trust you, you might actually be
able to have some input into that.
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:And if not, then you can lean
into repair when it comes back
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:to how you had that misstep.
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:So again, let's focus on shifting from
performing to being more present, it
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:embracing repair over perfection, and
focusing on connection instead of control.
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:When we do these things, we're opening
the door to some really deep connection.
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:So let's recap.
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:Perfectionism in relationships
comes from the need for control.
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:The pressure to get it right
actually creates more disconnection
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:and real connection comes from
being present, not perfect.
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:So here's my final thought.
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:Next time you catch yourself rehearsing
a conversation, why don't you pause
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:and ask yourself, am I trying to
connect or am I trying to control?
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:That small shift could change everything.
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:That's it for today's
episode of Coupled With.
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